The new Zunes are coming out in November. If you have a Mac, this is of no interest to you. But if you have a PC, and don't like iTunes, it seems to me that these players are a good competition for the iPods (excluding the iPod Touch and iPhone).
In particular, I like the flash-based Zunes (just as I like the iPod Nano). Zunerama gives us a nice feature-by-feature comparison of the two.
One thing that striked me actually (and that did not show up in the early videos of the Zune) was the actual size of the beast: the iPod Nano and the flash-based Zunes are both really small.
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